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| Old Korean maps of Europe? [message #8538] |
Mon, 24 April 2006 15:02  |
DeberniereTorrey
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Dear List Members,
On behalf of a colleague, I'm inquiring to see if
anyone knows of any medieval Korean map that includes
Europe or any other part of the western world?
Thanks,
Deberniere Torrey
Dept. of Comparative Literature
Penn State University
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| Re: Old Korean maps of Europe? [message #8545 is a reply to message #8538] |
Tue, 25 April 2006 16:08  |
Gari Keith Ledyard
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My monograph "Cartography in Korea" discusses the famous Kangnido
map of 1402, a Buddhist world map of the 12th century, an 18th
century Korean globe showing the entire world including Antarctica,
and the very popular Ch'Onhado of the 17th-19th centuries, which I
believe was a kind of folk literati spinoff of the Kangnido.
There's nothing in any of these maps which has resonance with the
concept "medieval," which pretty much is valent only in the
historiography of Western civilization.
The Kangnido (the popular though abbreviated title) was a genuine
world map which showed Korea and China as the core, with Japan
tossed (literally) into the ocean on the east, and with India,
Africa, the Arabian peninsula, the Mediterranean and Black Sea
areas, and a vague outline of the European peninsula added on the
western side. The latter components came from a 14th century
Chinese map based on an Islamic original. There are several Korean
copies of the 15th and 16th centuries, the oldest of which dates
from around 1471; unfortunately, all of them were stolen during the
Imjin wars and are now owned by Japanese institutions. The maps is
huge-- 164x172cm.
See Gari Ledyard, "Cartography in Korea," in J.B. Harley and
David Woodward, eds., , vol 2, part 2
(Univ Chicago Press, 1994), pp. 235-345, of which the section on
world maps, pp. 243-267 (several illustrations, including a nice
color photo of the Kangnido on the cover jacket, which probably
will be missing from library copies; but there are black-and-white
versions with the article and in the following:
I also wrote a condensed version of my discussion ("The Kangnido,
a Korean World Map") in
Exploration>. This was the catalogue (1992) for the National
Gallery of Art show "Circa 1492," on the 500th anniversary of the
Columbus voyage, which so far is the only occasion on which the
Kangnido has left Japan (it's held by Ry^ukoku Daigaku in Ky^oto).
In the Kyujanggak Library of Seoul National University there is
also a highly researched and beautifully executed modern Korean
hand copy, done during the 1980s.
Gari Ledyard
Quoting DeberniereTorrey :
> Dear List Members,
>
> On behalf of a colleague, I'm inquiring to see if
> anyone knows of any medieval Korean map that includes
> Europe or any other part of the western world?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Deberniere Torrey
>
> Dept. of Comparative Literature
> Penn State University
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
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| Re: Old Korean maps of Europe? [message #8554 is a reply to message #8545] |
Wed, 26 April 2006 12:59 |
Joy Kim
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Registered: July 1999
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Scanned images of old Korean maps available freely on the Web:
http://www.dlibrary.go.kr/WONMUN/index_codetree.jsp?v_dbid=N CL_DB_Q
(Select "Ko chido" in the database directory)
http://www.knowledge.go.kr/index.jsp
(Select "Yoksa" and then "Chido" in the Directory)
While on the subject of historic maps, I invite you to explore the "Sea of Korea Map Collection" at the Korean Heritage Library of the University of Southern California. Note that these are mostly WESTERN (not Korean) old maps. This collection excites many Korean people because most maps in the collection denote the body of water between Korea and Japan as "Sea of Korea" rather than the more commonly known "Sea of Japan"
http://www.usc.edu/isd/libraries/collections/sea_of_korea/.
(Press the "Show me the records" at the top right corner--easy to miss-- to see all the maps in the collection)
Joy Kim
Curator, Korean Heritage Library http://www.usc.edu/isd/korean
University of Southern California
University Park
Los Angeles, CA90089-0154
Tel: 213-740-2329 / Fax: 213-740-7437
----- Original Message -----
From: gkl1@columbia.edu
Date: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:13 pm
Subject: Re: [KS] Old Korean maps of Europe?
To: Korean Studies Discussion List
> My monograph "Cartography in Korea" discusses the famous Kangnido
> map of 1402, a Buddhist world map of the 12th century, an 18th
> century Korean globe showing the entire world including Antarctica,
> and the very popular Ch'Onhado of the 17th-19th centuries, which I
> believe was a kind of folk literati spinoff of the Kangnido.
> There's nothing in any of these maps which has resonance with the
> concept "medieval," which pretty much is valent only in the
> historiography of Western civilization.
> The Kangnido (the popular though abbreviated title) was a genuine
> world map which showed Korea and China as the core, with Japan
> tossed (literally) into the ocean on the east, and with India,
> Africa, the Arabian peninsula, the Mediterranean and Black Sea
> areas, and a vague outline of the European peninsula added on the
> western side. The latter components came from a 14th century
> Chinese map based on an Islamic original. There are several Korean
> copies of the 15th and 16th centuries, the oldest of which dates
> from around 1471; unfortunately, all of them were stolen during the
> Imjin wars and are now owned by Japanese institutions. The maps is
> huge-- 164x172cm.
>
> See Gari Ledyard, "Cartography in Korea," in J.B. Harley and
> David Woodward, eds., , vol 2, part 2
>
> (Univ Chicago Press, 1994), pp. 235-345, of which the section on
> world maps, pp. 243-267 (several illustrations, including a nice
> color photo of the Kangnido on the cover jacket, which probably
> will be missing from library copies; but there are black-and-white
> versions with the article and in the following:
>
> I also wrote a condensed version of my discussion ("The Kangnido,
> a Korean World Map") in
> Exploration>. This was the catalogue (1992) for the National
> Gallery of Art show "Circa 1492," on the 500th anniversary of the
> Columbus voyage, which so far is the only occasion on which the
> Kangnido has left Japan (it's held by Ry^ukoku Daigaku in Ky^oto).
>
> In the Kyujanggak Library of Seoul National University there is
> also a highly researched and beautifully executed modern Korean
> hand copy, done during the 1980s.
>
> Gari Ledyard
>
> Quoting DeberniereTorrey :
>
> > Dear List Members,
> >
> > On behalf of a colleague, I'm inquiring to see if
> > anyone knows of any medieval Korean map that includes
> > Europe or any other part of the western world?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Deberniere Torrey
> >
> > Dept. of Comparative Literature
> > Penn State University
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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| Re: Colonization vs occupation [message #8555 is a reply to message #8551] |
Wed, 26 April 2006 20:55 |
michael Robinson[1]
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Henry:
Koreans call the 1910-1945 period both the period of Japanese occupation or
the period of Japanese colonial/imperial rule. Colonialism is now I think
more frequent, but when I started working on the period some scholars
objected to "colonialism" perhaps because it implied a stable hegemony of
long duration. Occupation seemed perhaps more uncertain, or perhaps it
implied no acceptance of such rule by a still "resisting" Korean population.
Clearly the Japanese colonized Korea, Taiwan, Manchuria (even though this
was a shorter period) with some intensity. they employed a variety of
techniques and the Japanese idea of colonialism changed over time. Direct
rule in Taiwan and Korea, indirect in Manchuria. Current scholarship in the
Japan field is now all agog about Empire. Studies of the Japanese
"colonization" of Tohoku, the Ainu, the Ryukyus during the Tokugawa
period.....maybe this is more properly something different as in the
settling of the American West...though that too is now brought into a
colonial paradigm. I think you are right that the 1937 advance into China
and SEAsia, Indonesia Burma etc. were more military occupations, but had the
war continued or the Japanese prevailed they were full of plans for how to
administer their hold over all of Asia. The problem with not thinking about
Japanese and Colonialism is that European scholars spend virtually no time
bringing Japanese colonialism into the loop of that very developed and
interesting field of writing. Be hopeful, however, because more and more
work on Japanese variants of colonialism occupies much of modern Korean
history writing now as well as a huge portion of the modern Japan field that
is busily dissecting the Empire in very interesting ways. It was pretty
lonely in the 1970s working on this, but there is plenty of company now.
Mike Robinson
----- Original Message -----
From: "Henny Savenije"
To: "Korean Studies Discussion List"
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 9:36 AM
Subject: [KS] Colonization vs occupation
> When Koreans and also Korean scholars refer to the Japanese period, they
> refer to the colonization period. When Europeans refer to the German
> period they refer to the occupation period.
>
> Can someone enlighten me why we speak about the Japanese colonization and
> not about the Japanese occupation??
>
> When I speak of colonization I think of the Dutch, Spanish, British and
> Portuguese and even the French, but never of the Japanese, mainly because
> the time the Japanese occupied many countries is in my opinion too short
> to justify the term colonization.
>
> Even though the Japanese exploited in many ways the local population as
> the colonizers above mentioned, the Germans did the same thing, so I am
> really interested why we don't speak about the German colonization, but we
> do speak about the Japanese colonization
>
> Any idea is appreciated.
>
>
>
>
> Henny (Lee Hae Kang)
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| Re: Old Korean maps of Europe? [message #8556 is a reply to message #8552] |
Wed, 26 April 2006 21:29 |
Gari Keith Ledyard
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Wikipedia (for once!), is correct. But the misunderstanding is
understandable. The circa 1471 copy of the Kangnido (the Ry^ukoku
Daigaku copy, which is the oldest known copy of the long lost 1402
original) contained an error in that the copyist apparently didn't
recognize that the Mediterranean and Black seas were bodies of
water and not countries, and so did not color them with the same
ocean color (which over the centuries has become black), but rather
left them undifferentiated from the land areas. The same error was
made in the Tenri University copy (believed to be from about 1568;
see illustration in my coverage, cited in my earlier message today,
p. 244), but in that case the delineation was a little more careful
and the identities of the areas in question are much more clearly
the Mediterranean and the Black Seas.
The treatment of these seas by the original cartographer (either
of the Islamic source map, the Chinese copy of it, or the original
Kangnido of 1402) was a bit confused. The Italian and Greek
peninsulas were pushed almost together, leaving only a channel
between them, and the Black Sea poured through it into the
Mediterranean--thus really through the Adriatic rather than the
Bosporus. That much said, it is much easier to interpret the sea
areas than the land ones, Spain comes out the most clearly, and
Italy and Greece are readily detectable while the rest is pretty
much a blur. This too is quite understandable given the ultimate
Islamic source.
Gari Ledyard
Quoting Michael Duffy :
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> There's a replica of the Kangnido map in the National Museum in
> Seoul. The original is in Ryukoko University in Japan. I see that
> the Wikipedia entry says it clearly depicts the Mediterranean,
> though to my cartographically untrained eye, it seemed to show
> Europe as a northward extension of Africa.
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> From: Georgy Katsiaficas
> Reply-To: Korean Studies Discussion List
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> To: Korean Studies Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [KS] Old Korean maps of Europe?
> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 09:43:55 -0400
> >Dear all,
> >
> >Attached is one such map I pulled off the internet a few weeks
> ago...If you
> >google Kangnido map (the original of which appears to be in
> Japan) you
> >should find lots of references.
> >
> >Georgy Katsiaficas
> >Professor of Humanities
> >Wentworth Institute of Technology
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> >www.eroseffect.com
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On 4/24/06 3:02 PM, "DeberniereTorrey"
> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear List Members,
> > >
> > > On behalf of a colleague, I'm inquiring to see if
> > > anyone knows of any medieval Korean map that includes
> > > Europe or any other part of the western world?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Deberniere Torrey
> > >
> > > Dept. of Comparative Literature
> > > Penn State University
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________
> > > Do You Yahoo!?
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